Episode 33: Julie Jenkinson, Aaron Pratt, and Darrell Hirsch - Leadership Montana
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Episode 33: Julie Jenkinson, Aaron Pratt, and Darrell Hirsch

In this episode, Chantel speaks with Leadership Montana Board Members Julie Jenkinson, Darrell Hirsch, and Aaron Pratt.  This group of leaders discuss the sense of purpose they each find in parenting, their love for their respective homes in Montana, and why they chose to serve Leadership Montana through service on the Board of Governors.  They also discuss the future of Leadership Montana, what “holding hard conversations” means to them, and much more.

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Chantel Schieffer


Chantel, Class of 2010 and Masters Class 2019 alumna, is also our President & CEO. An occasional host, she brings to Listen First Montana a deep knowledge of our alumni and the many ways they work to build a better Montana.


Julie Jenkinson


“Have the conversation, not the debate – not trying to change someone’s mind, but really try and figure out ‘What don’t I know about what you believe? What don’t I know about the topic? And how can we communicate better?”


Aaron Pratt


“I think what Leadership Montana has taught me and demonstrated to me is that I’m going into a conversation to learn something, not to teach something to somebody.”

“I think there is a renewed interest and a renewed value proposition around what our families mean to us and a real recognition of that by our employers which is really refreshing and really different from what I’ve experienced in the  past.”


Darrel Hirsch


“Our goal seems to always be to try to win, and certainly there is a time and a place for that and that’s a good thing [but] people need to stop trying to win and start to understand a lot more, and if you can do that, it really becomes habit forming, and it becomes really really interesting.”